Episode 556: This Conversation is Hardened
This week, we discuss the end of Cloud 1.0, AI agents fixing old apps, and Chainguard vs. Docker images. Plus, the mystery of Dutch broth is finally solved.
Watch the YouTube Live Recording of Episode 556
Runner-up Titles
His overall deal
Been there and done that
been ignoring that shift key for years
Cloud is just fine
I’ll be back in Bartertown
The “F” Word
Hardened-washing
We’ll never do this, but we should check back in in 3 months
Libraries are the best
Elves don’t belong in space
Rundown
Are we at the end of cloud or cloud 1.0
It's the beginning of Cloud 2.0
Spec-driven development system for Claude Code
Anthropic and App Modernization
A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven development
What comes next, if Claude Code is as good as people say.
Microsoft Spending on Anthropic Approaches $500 Million a Year
Claude Code Won't Fix Your Life
Coté and Tony contemplate day two AI-generated apps, and an excerpt.
Why We've Tried to Replace Developers Every Decade Since 1969
Well, that escalated quickly: Zero CVEs, lots of vendors
Relevant to your Interests
Beijing tells Chinese firms to stop using US and Israeli cybersecurity software
China blacklists VMware, Palo Alto Networks software over national security fears
Kroger taps Google Gemini, announces more key AI moves
Texas judge throws out second lawsuit over CrowdStrike outage
Apple will pay billions for Gemini after OpenAI declined
Dell wants £10m+ from VMware if Tesco case goes against it
Tailscale: The Best Free App Most Mac Power Users Aren’t Using
How WhatsApp Took Over the Global Conversation
Our approach to advertising and expanding access to ChatGPT
OpenAI’s ARR reached over $20 billion in 2025, CFO says
Simon Willison’s take on Our approach to advertising and ChatGPT
The AI lab revolving door spins ever faster | TechCrunch
How Markdown took over the world
An Interview with United CEO Scott Kirby About Tech Transformation
Conferences
cfgmgmtcamp 2026, February 2nd to 4th, Ghent, BE.
Coté speaking - anyone interested in being an SDI guest?
DevOpsDayLA at SCALE23x, March 6th, Pasadena, CA
Use code: DEVOP for 50% off.
Devnexus 2026, March 4th to 6th, Atlanta, GA.
Use this 30% off discount code from your pals at Tanzu: DN26VMWARE30.
KubeCon EU, March 23rd to 26th, 2026 - Coté will be there on a media pass.
VMware User Groups (VMUGs):
Amsterdam (March 17-19, 2026)
Minneapolis (April 7-9, 2026)
Toronto (May 12-14, 2026)
Dallas (June 9-11, 2026)
Orlando (October 20-22, 2026)
SDT News & Community
Join our Slack community
Email the show: questions@softwaredefinedtalk.com
Free stickers: Email your address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com
Follow us on social media: Twitter, Threads, Mastodon, LinkedIn, BlueSky
Watch us on: Twitch, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok
Book offer: Use code SDT for $20 off "Digital WTF" by Coté
Sponsor the show
Recommendations
Brandon: The Library will loan you a 5G hotspot
Matt: Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor (rogue-like Vampire Hunters-type game)
Coté: Streamyard shorts generation. Salesforce was inspired by dolphins.
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This Conversation is Hardened
Episode 556
January 23rd, 2026
1 hr 7 mins
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About this Episode
This week, we discuss the end of Cloud 1.0, AI agents fixing old apps, and Chainguard vs. Docker images. Plus, the mystery of Dutch broth is finally solved.
Watch the YouTube Live Recording of Episode 556
Runner-up Titles
- His overall deal
- Been there and done that
- been ignoring that shift key for years
- Cloud is just fine
- I’ll be back in Bartertown
- The “F” Word
- Hardened-washing
- We’ll never do this, but we should check back in in 3 months
- Libraries are the best
- Elves don’t belong in space
Rundown
- Are we at the end of cloud or cloud 1.0
- It's the beginning of Cloud 2.0
- Spec-driven development system for Claude Code
- Anthropic and App Modernization
- A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven development
- What comes next, if Claude Code is as good as people say.
- Microsoft Spending on Anthropic Approaches $500 Million a Year
- Claude Code Won't Fix Your Life
- Coté and Tony contemplate day two AI-generated apps, and an excerpt.
- Why We've Tried to Replace Developers Every Decade Since 1969
- Well, that escalated quickly: Zero CVEs, lots of vendors
Relevant to your Interests
- Beijing tells Chinese firms to stop using US and Israeli cybersecurity software
- China blacklists VMware, Palo Alto Networks software over national security fears
- Kroger taps Google Gemini, announces more key AI moves
- Texas judge throws out second lawsuit over CrowdStrike outage
- Apple will pay billions for Gemini after OpenAI declined
- Dell wants £10m+ from VMware if Tesco case goes against it
- Tailscale: The Best Free App Most Mac Power Users Aren’t Using
- How WhatsApp Took Over the Global Conversation
- Our approach to advertising and expanding access to ChatGPT
- OpenAI’s ARR reached over $20 billion in 2025, CFO says
- Simon Willison’s take on Our approach to advertising and ChatGPT
- The AI lab revolving door spins ever faster | TechCrunch
- How Markdown took over the world
- An Interview with United CEO Scott Kirby About Tech Transformation
Conferences
- cfgmgmtcamp 2026, February 2nd to 4th, Ghent, BE.
- Coté speaking - anyone interested in being an SDI guest?
- DevOpsDayLA at SCALE23x, March 6th, Pasadena, CA
- Use code: DEVOP for 50% off.
- Devnexus 2026, March 4th to 6th, Atlanta, GA.
- Use this 30% off discount code from your pals at Tanzu: DN26VMWARE30.
- KubeCon EU, March 23rd to 26th, 2026 - Coté will be there on a media pass.
- VMware User Groups (VMUGs):
- Amsterdam (March 17-19, 2026)
- Minneapolis (April 7-9, 2026)
- Toronto (May 12-14, 2026)
- Dallas (June 9-11, 2026)
- Orlando (October 20-22, 2026)
SDT News & Community
- Join our Slack community
- Email the show: questions@softwaredefinedtalk.com
- Free stickers: Email your address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com
- Watch us on: Twitch, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok
- Book offer: Use code SDT for $20 off "Digital WTF" by Coté
- Sponsor the show
Recommendations
- Brandon: The Library will loan you a 5G hotspot
- Matt: Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor (rogue-like Vampire Hunters-type game)
- Coté: Streamyard shorts generation. Salesforce was inspired by dolphins.
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